Comments on: name and shame http://olehfilipchuk.com/2009/05/18/name-and-shame/ another technology blog Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:38:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: GUYA.NET » Blog Archive » So what is Flex then, again?! http://olehfilipchuk.com/2009/05/18/name-and-shame/#comment-10 GUYA.NET » Blog Archive » So what is Flex then, again?! Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:18:30 +0000 http://olegfilipchuk.com/?p=35#comment-10 [...] course some people think this change is a terrible mistake, these are mostly the people who the name Flex was [...] [...] course some people think this change is a terrible mistake, these are mostly the people who the name Flex was [...]

]]> By: Pavel Simek http://olehfilipchuk.com/2009/05/18/name-and-shame/#comment-9 Pavel Simek Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:53:22 +0000 http://olegfilipchuk.com/?p=35#comment-9 I disagree. I use FB to create non-flex applications and I want it to be properly named. Flex is just a library, one of many, nothing more. Flash Platform tools are: Flash Authoring + Flash Builder + Flash Catalyst = Fa + Fb + Fc = F(a + b + c) :) Simple and strong. I disagree.
I use FB to create non-flex applications and I want it to be properly named.
Flex is just a library, one of many, nothing more.

Flash Platform tools are:
Flash Authoring + Flash Builder + Flash Catalyst
= Fa + Fb + Fc
= F(a + b + c) :)
Simple and strong.

]]> By: fred http://olehfilipchuk.com/2009/05/18/name-and-shame/#comment-8 fred Wed, 20 May 2009 03:28:28 +0000 http://olegfilipchuk.com/?p=35#comment-8 I also think this renaming is wrong, and perhaps just a way for Adobe to eek a little more money out of the pockets of developers. And will Adobe bundle everything into one package? And at some point in the future will it all merge into one ginormous application? I also think this renaming is wrong, and perhaps just a way for Adobe to eek a little more money out of the pockets of developers.

And will Adobe bundle everything into one package? And at some point in the future will it all merge into one ginormous application?

]]> By: Oleg http://olehfilipchuk.com/2009/05/18/name-and-shame/#comment-7 Oleg Tue, 19 May 2009 19:57:00 +0000 http://olegfilipchuk.com/?p=35#comment-7 Mark, I'm sorry to hear that you think I have a negative perceptions of Flash. I have a feeling that you've totally missed the point of this post. The point of this post is the ridiculous renaming of a well branded and actually working tool. This short-sighted move brought a lot of confusion into the already messy flash platform world. What is the difference between Flash builder, Flash catalyst, Flash and Flash Player? Can I open *.fla in all these tools, can I do timeline animation in Flash builder, or can I code MXML in Flash or Flash Player? It's a total mess. I know the answer to those questions, but I just want to demonstrate the confusion of non flash platform developer. It’s not about coolness of name but about managers who sign off the $$$ for buying new tools, and with ridiculous “Flash” builder it will be much harder in the enterprise/financial environment. You are right, these are just languages, so is Silverlight... P.S. I have been developing using this technology since Flash 5 and since Flex 1.5 Mark,
I’m sorry to hear that you think I have a negative perceptions of Flash. I have a feeling that you’ve totally missed the point of this post.
The point of this post is the ridiculous renaming of a well branded and actually working tool.
This short-sighted move brought a lot of confusion into the already messy flash platform world.

What is the difference between Flash builder, Flash catalyst, Flash and Flash Player?
Can I open *.fla in all these tools, can I do timeline animation in Flash builder, or can I code MXML in Flash or Flash Player?

It’s a total mess. I know the answer to those questions, but I just want to demonstrate the confusion of non flash platform developer.
It’s not about coolness of name but about managers who sign off the $$$ for buying new tools, and with ridiculous “Flash” builder it will be much harder in the enterprise/financial environment.

You are right, these are just languages, so is Silverlight…

P.S.
I have been developing using this technology since Flash 5 and since Flex 1.5

]]> By: Mark Doherty http://olehfilipchuk.com/2009/05/18/name-and-shame/#comment-6 Mark Doherty Tue, 19 May 2009 10:00:35 +0000 http://olegfilipchuk.com/?p=35#comment-6 Hi Oleg, Thanks for the post, it's interesting to hear that you have such negative perceptions of Flash. I actually came from the world of Visual Studio and C++ and before that I used to teach Java at university. They are just languages and tools, nothing more than that. My personal choice was VC6 because it did everything I needed with fantastic performance. Flash Builder is for creating Web/AIR applications using Actionscript 3.0 and the open source Flex SDK. In our experience Enterprise customers really enjoy using user experiences created with the Flash Platform. Check out some of these examples: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/marketplace/index.cfm?event=marketplace.categories&marketplaceId=1&categoryid=3 Regards, Mark www.flashmobileblog.com Hi Oleg,

Thanks for the post, it’s interesting to hear that you have such negative perceptions of Flash.

I actually came from the world of Visual Studio and C++ and before that I used to teach Java at university. They are just languages and tools, nothing more than that. My personal choice was VC6 because it did everything I needed with fantastic performance.

Flash Builder is for creating Web/AIR applications using Actionscript 3.0 and the open source Flex SDK.

In our experience Enterprise customers really enjoy using user experiences created with the Flash Platform.

Check out some of these examples:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/marketplace/index.cfm?event=marketplace.categories&marketplaceId=1&categoryid=3

Regards,

Mark
http://www.flashmobileblog.com

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